[carl ny]

I’m not sure which way is correct,just do it the same way on both bits or take yours with you. First make sure that your old bit is the correct size. When you use a leverage bit you need a curb chain for it to work correctly. Also, with a leverage bit you have a lot of power in your hands, be gentle, use your fingers and hands, not your arms..

carl ny

[carl ny]

Probably wouldn’t know until you got it out and checked it over. From what you said you could probably end up with a lot of $$ in it. That being said, I hate to see that good old stuff just rot away, could be a nice project… Look it over and see how bad it’s set-up.

carl ny

[carl ny]

Is that a broken snaffle you are using? Try a straight bar leverage bit.Usually they have 3 positions for the lines so you can adjust as needed.I don’t use the leverage unless I need it. A bit with a slight curb might help Oz, or you could try adjusting his lines a little shorter. I’ve seen horses that have got the habit so bad that nothing helps. JMHO

carl ny

[carl ny]

George;

Just wondering, what breed of goat do you have and why?? just curious.

carl ny

[carl ny]

I milked by hand, Not sure that a machine for cows will work on goats. Don’t know if the inflations are the same. I just about know that the Surge units won’t, goats are to short. LOL Probably could use the pail type with the right inflations. Check on vacuum pressure too.

carl ny

[carl ny]

I’m not going to argue, I like beef better too. I only got started with goats because my wife wanted one for a pet. I figured as long as I had to feed it I might as well get some milk out of it. Well, you know how that goes, one thing leads to another and in a few years we were milking 6 and had 23 total. Now I only have one and that is my son’s buck. He told his wife that she could have a couple for milk(sound familiar) but he wasn’t going to no stinking buck in his horse barn.

carl ny

[carl ny]

That’s what I’ve been told by some people but of course it could have been an exaggeration. One of them was trying to sell me a goat for $800.00, that may very well be why she gave so much. LOL I did have one grade Nubian that gave exactly 2 gallon for about 4 months right after I took the kids off her. She had triplets every year except her first and last. I always milk them even while they are nursing. Depending on how many kids she has I don’t always get very much but it tells the doe to produce more. That was what I was told buy the old guy I bought my first goat from and it seemed to work. Like I said before, I didn’t really push them because I didn’t need that much milk. Most of them only gave between 1 to 1 1/2 gallon a day. Any milk you don’t use feed to the pigs, best pork you ever had.

carl ny

[carl ny]

Can’t remember about a Jersey, a good goat will give a gallon and a half up to three gallon or more. Price has a lot of factors, where you live, registered or grade, and even the breed. I bought a decent doe not to long ago for $75.00. The guy just wanted to down size and I told him I was just looking for milk for my grand daughter. Or, you can pay up to and over $1000.00 for one,way more for some of those show goats. I use to have registered stock until I started crossing with the Boar for meat. After that I didn’t worry about papers(never could get milk out of those papers anyway). I got just as good of production and didn’t have the the expense and paper work of registered.I will admit that I never really pushed for production, I was just doing it for a hobby and my own milk. I gave away more milk than I ever sold. If you really want a lot, or need a lot, of milk, buy a Jersey. The only reason I got started with goats was because I had a lot of brush I wanted cleared. I used to use the dry does, kids, and the buck for that. I never had any regrets.

carl ny

[carl ny]

I had goats for about 25 yrs, and as many as 23 at a time,counting all the kids. I had a four strand electric fence with the strands about 8 inches apart and never had a problem, except that one goat that didn’t care if she got shocked, or if I bought a goat that didn’t know anything about a fence. To train a goat I would put them on a lead and force them to touch the fence,usually about 1 or 2 times was enough.I always trained them after a good rain so they got a good ground. Once they get shocked a couple times on a good hot fence I never had a problem. Some people might think that was mean but it wasn’t half as bad as burning there horns. I did that too, I would not have a goat with horns. Also, don’t teach them to butt!!!! It’s cute when they only weigh about 10 lbs. but not so cute when they grow up and weigh 150 or 200 lbs..Even if they are very gentle, accidents can happen and it’s not very pretty to have a small child get a horn in the eye. No, I never had that happen but one of my sons came very close. Take it for what it’s worth. JMHO.

carl ny

[carl ny]

I’ve only had trouble fencing in one goat but you could not keep her in no matter what you did.I finally sent her to the auction.I will admit that it takes a lot more fence than one strand of tape. LOL

carl ny

[carl ny]

I forgot, If you have a mare the won’t nurse her foal you can feed it goat milk from day one. I used to freeze the colostrum and saved it for emergencies. I never had to use it myself but I gave it to a couple of people around here.

carl ny

[carl ny]

Goats milk has a higher butter fat than cows milk on the average, not a lot, but some. Nubians, like Jerseys for cows, give about the highest. Goat milk has smaller fat globules than cows milk. Goat milk is naturally homogenized, it will separate but takes a long time and you won’t get as much cream. It will give more cream than cows milk if you use a separator. You can actually feed it to babies. Our first son ate like a hog and my wife didn’t have enough milk so we supplemented with goat milk. The doctor had a fit but only because it wasn’t pasteurized. Also, if you drink the milk don’t let the goats eat any weeds. Good hay, grass and grain only. Your milk will taste exactly like what ever they eat. Don’t ask how I know what Pine needle flavored milk taste like…. Goat milk also makes very good cheese and butter. Any of the dairy breeds will do but I always liked Nubians, I think they are a lot more contented. Also they are a very good meat source. If I wasn’t going to keep the kids I use to cross breed with a Boar buck. The kids grew taller than the Boar and heavier than the Nubian. Any more question’s just ask..

carl ny

[carl ny]

I would guess that that engine would be all you would need with horses at a steady walk. Again,JMHO

carl ny

[carl ny]

You could probably reduce that HP by 25% to 40% because you are not using any of the HP to power the tractor and pull the baler when using a forecart, just to power the baler. JMHO

carl ny

[carl ny]

Stephen;

Carl E. Lyndaker
Crystal Creek Ranch
Lowville,New York

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