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CharlyBonifaz
MemberBIGOX,
quite a collection ……here’s the world’s second tallest bovine:
http://www.ferneanimalsanctuary.org/index.php?page=chillinaturally I like your last video best 😀
it was taken during last year’s oxdrovers/bullockies gathering in Germany and this year’s is actually next weekend; so if you make it to Dresden’s airport by Saturday, I could pick you up and take you along……..;)
elkeMemberI guess we have to agree to disagree.
I can live with that 😉
Also, I don’t see how the electrolyte is causing the problem with the milk.
me neither 🙂
it’s the bicarb; it interferes with the low pH needed in the abomasum to coagulate the milk, remember it is a buffer…..
over here the gurus advocate a timelapse of at least 2 hours between milk and regular electrolyte solution
with the late developements on the market they want it given with milk because they added lactic acid bacteria, which will thrive only in milkMemberlike:
icing sugar / honey in wounds that have a bad time healing?
has always been a good alternative :rolleyes:
elkeMembernear horse,
hoping for a good discussion, I’ll chime in again, even though this is not a medical forum…….However, the confirmation by Doll (1992) that hypersecretion also plays an important part in viral diarrhoea changed our traditional view of handling diarrhoeic calves in so far as starvation is not an option to reduce the degree of diarrhoea.
and
Traditionally, continued feeding of milk to diarrhoeic calves was thought to aggravate diarrhoea because malabsorbtion would provide substrate to the intestinal flora for fermentation and thus lead to osmotic diarrhoea.
Consequently, withdrawal of milk during the first days of diarrhoea was recommended. In later studies, secretory mechanisms were found to play the major role even in diarrhoea caused by viruses or cryptosporidia, and evidence was produced that diarrhoeic calves have sufficient capacity to digest milk. Furthermore, the ingestion of adequate amounts of milk showed no negative effect on duration of diarrhoea.quoted from the Irish Veterinary Journal
http://www.irishveterinaryjournal.com/Links/PDFs/CE-Large/CELA_Jan_09.pdfmodern electrolyte solutions aid the casein coagulation in the abomasum and still buffer in the small intestines, they are meant to be given with milk.
what I like about your recipe: easily available ingredients on hand immediately when needed; as is, you are right: it should not be fed with milk but as an extra meal in between for example…..
I wholeheartedly agree to your last paragraph!
elkeMemberAvoid giving milk at this point – it tends to just sit in the gut and makes things worse.
I’m afraid I’d want to differentiate that a little :rolleyes:
calves that are younger than 7 days should not be taken off milk; calves older than a week can stand 24 hours without, but then should be back on milk;
store the mixture in a dry place though as the salt will draw water……
good luck 😉Memberplease think of pain-medication; might make the following day(s) a lot easier on them…..
MemberPictures please 😉
elkeMemberold but padded;)
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plus there is little movement, no rubbing, no abrasion……..
yes it should fit the head
elkeMemberYou all know the look I mean – something like “you humans make less sense every day.”
😀
Summerweather was fine, my ox had been hitched to the sulky and we went to visit a neighbour.
We had to go through a low underpass beneath the autobahn and stood in front of a high wall of nettles on the other side. I knew, beyond the nettles was green gras and there was our way to continue to the other farm; my ox had stopped to look at the obstacle. I asked him to continue and after my second, more pressing request he commenced pulling; we didn’t get very far: hidden in the nettles was a log, the sulky was hooked on it, overturned and I landed in the midst of the nettles. The face of my ox when he turned back to look at the mess was just hilarious and I swear I heard him say: “Now, you wanted me to do it….” 😮MemberHere, folks can’t even find help to haul in hay. They’d rather work at McDonalds. Sad.
can’t you make it an “event”, have a real barbeque after the work is done? a bonfire and sit together……
Memberhttp://www.gadling.com/2007/11/20/the-death-of-an-anachronism-horse-carts-banned-from-romanian-ro/
from what I hear, a lot of these horses are on the market now…
since they constitute the main way of travelling for most of the agricultural populace, it might have been better, to leave the roads accessible during daylight and keep these carts off at night; I wonder how the farmers fare without their work force, little money as they have…Membersince I’m quite an idiot as far as computers are concerned, I can describe only how I was told to do :rolleyes:
http://imageshack.us/
and after I upload my image right there on the front page they ask me if I want it resized :D…..
then I click on “host it”, and by the time I drank my coffee I can see the picture on the screen; I click onto it with the right key on my mouse and insert it with the icon for pictures……..
does that make sense?
elkeMemberWhen walking away from the barn stops, turns back, bucks, drags back and in short is giving me all the body language he can come up with to tell me he wants to go back to his pen. I have tried some good smacks and whip shots on his rear, repetition walking up to the barn and back away. The best I have accomplished so far is him walking real slowly at the end of the rope following me from way back and occasionally stopping till I give him a lash or tap for some more reluctant distance. I tried giving him a treat when we got away a distance hoping he would walk out for that but it didn’t work very well.
sounds very familiar 🙁 especially when we pass the entrance and he figured this is it, and I plan to do more work 😉
I never gave him a chance to get through with his suggestion, on the contrary, I made him do more passes…..
he has been improving but still not quite forgets to tell me about his notion….
have been wondering if a partner for him would make things easier……he learns real quick.
they sure do 😀
January 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm in reply to: vid of horses packing wood out of forest in balkanian mountain #49048Memberthey DID jump-start a fully laden tractor! this footage shows what incredible strength a horse can exert
it also shows the implicitness of the workers that of course their horses can and will do just that……even if it is the end of a hard labour day
elkeMember🙂
the art is not to make no mistake, the art is to realize you made one 😉
I’ve had days like that, guess who told me? My ox did :confused:
but I’m learning….:o
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