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Welcome Noah, it is good to have you on board. Ask questions, search the forum, and as a newbie we would love your feedback so we can make this a better resource for all.

Erika

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Our web folks are working on this and other bugs. Can you add to the bug thread, plus any other problems or changes that would make using the forum more enjoyable.

Thanks,
Erika

[dominiquer60]

Our web folks are working on this and other bugs. Can you add to the bug thread, plus any other problems or changes that would make using the forum more enjoyable.

Thanks,
Erika

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Yes this is a problem, I even had an up load error today.

There are lots of missing photos that enhance the various conversations, it is a real loss.

Erika

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I know that you are not on facebook, so I posted a link to this thread. I hope it fills up fast for you, it is a great topic to present.

Erika

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I agree with the others that a single horse working 30″ rows is a good fit. We worked a couple acres of 30″ row corn with straddle row cultivator a couple years back, it was tight, but we made it work. A McCormick New 4 will adjust down to ~36″, but you sacrifice your ability to steer the rig as well as if it were wider. Having it this narrow may even sacrifice the ability to widen the individual tool frames as well. My compromise was to set the wheels at 40″ on center so that I could still make full use of widening the tool frames and have a good steering range with the foot pedals. When I use the cultivator to mark rows I just set over a wheel width to keep my 36″ rows, what make this easier is if you set your rear sweeps at 36″ on center. These will leave a shallow mark that is easy for you and the horses to follow.

With the 30″ corn rows we set the rear sweeps narrower so that there was less chance of wiping out the adjacent rows. The one ton horses would occasionally take out a plant, but a well seasoned farmer once told me that it is common to kill 5% of a crop while cultivating (especially with that Willams tool system).

Speaking of the Williams tool system, that is a hard one to beat, but I will say that I don’t miss it too much and having lines in my hands seems to negate any small differences from the Williams and my McCormick Deering. For blind cultivation we use and old rod weeder on the back of a JD cultivator, it works fairly well, but if you could figure out how to mount lely/einbock type tines to horse drawn equipment I think you would be better off. the original McCormick had a little tine attachment that blind weeds what the sweeps don’t get, we like this option even better as we can do a better job with weeds between the rows while blind weeding the crop. I will attach pictures below.

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I couldn’t post both photos in the same post.

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Yes Carl that is exactly what is happening with Sam’s high pole and evener. As strong as Sam is physics has the best of him. It doesn’t take lifting the pole much to get the proper tightness, but if you don’t go the extra bit to do it right, there is definitely tongue weight on the horses.

The pictures show the difference if you look at the pole height and front lazy straps.

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Welcome Chip! Folks like you are one of the reasons that DAPNet was created. Feel free to start a new discussion or add to an old one. The forum is searchable and we are working on making it a little easier to search, so if you have any troubles please let us know. We would love to get feedback from a newbie on how we can make the forum a better place to find the information that you need.

Erika

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Tongue weight with Sam’s Rig is a factor too. Not once hitched well with a D-ring harness, but getting it hitched well can be a challenge, even for Sam. It would help to have better chucks for the wheels, but they aren’t always readily available as the arch is used all over the farm, so a second person is always a help when hitching. That jack sounds like a good deal, do you have a picture Carl?

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Folks this is an opportunity to be heard, the website people want to help make this forum a better place to share information. Your feedback is important.

Erika

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That is a tough one. You need to find something that he responds to. I know beef showmen that teach leading by tying to a tractor, but it would be a last resort for most teamsters if at all. The head butting needs to stop too. Think about what a cow would do if she were head butted and didn’t like it. How much force would she use to reprimand him, it can take a lot sometimes. Since we aren’t as big as a cow, humans have to be more creative about it.
I am sorry that I don’t have a better answer for you, also some animals just don’t make good workers.

Erika

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Beautiful footage of a great team, teamster and crop. I guessing that was some top notch feed? I am happy to say that I caught the mowing bug last Summer, it was a blast cutting my own mulch straw for the first time

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We have poles of various types, wood, square stock and round pipe. I prefer the wood for the reasons above, and also because it is quieter than metal. When I am cultivating or another relaxing task, the last thing that I want do is drown out the sound of the Veery with a loud clanking metal pole. Sam has a few pieces that like Donn he can interchange a square stock pole between, and like Donn we use good snug D-Ring harness. Part of the success with these poles and harness relies on proper harness adjustment. There are a lot of good conversations here about that topic if you do a search for D-ring harness they will come up.

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Whoa, back up, did someone say Barden Cart Plans? Carl Russell are they available yet?
Erika 🙂

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