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ParticipantYou start to train them to do what you want from day one.
I put my steers feed in their dish and call them, When both of them are eating I tell them by name to step back and I tie him up then do the same for the other.
When I start to train them to the yoke. I drop a bow over his neck and now I AM LORD AND MASTER they do not put their head down for anything, if he is eating grass and I drop a bow over his neck his head will autiomaticly come up. If you are stricked enough with this they will never have a tendency to eat with the yoke on. You should never make them decide when it is alright to eat, that should be you job.ParticipantI have used the vertical evener some but most of the time I used the unicorn as a training thing and it would work better without the evener.
Would use the evener for two teams. My evener has three holes in the center to adjust the load.
Single tandem, the rope eveners work the best.ParticipantWe used to work them in unicorn or tandem a lot. Every ox should be trained as a single. That ox in the front learns what to do in a hurry if he has a good pair behind him and a decent trainer. When you tell them to go he has no choice and the same for stop.
ParticipantEvery animal, the same as every human, has his very own personality.
You might get a hot Swiss and you might get a laid back Chianinia.ParticipantI had a pair of oxen out of Normande hiefers and a Milking Devon bull.
They were heavier built than Devon and I think a little bit slower and a little more laid back than the Devon. Now I need a pair of Devon Chianinia. WOW!!ParticipantAll you talk about here is the leather hame strap. Does any one use the metal hame fastener? That is what I grew up with.
ParticipantThe Milking Devon makes a great ox.
A Devon bull on an Ayshire cow makes a great high speed ox.
A Devon bull on a Holstein cow makes a great mediam speed ox.
A Devon bull on a Swiss cow makes a great slow ox.
The best breed of ox is still the breed that you like.ParticipantI have sold oxen for less than 20 cents a pound but the pair I have now I would not even consider less than 3 dollars a pound.
ParticipantThere is a fairly large group of Amish here that work together. If it is a good year for ice they will put up a huge amount of ice. Some still use sawdust for insulatin but most of them have built new ice houses with good insulatin.
They cut it with a large circle saw mounted on two wheels with an engine and finish the cut with a hand ice saw. They haul it with horses and if the sleding is good they will use sleds if not they will use wagons.ParticipantThe Amish that I am friends with put up a lot Ice. I am of no help but I love go over and get in the way.
Elie has ice for about another week or ten days.ParticipantThe fore head yoke is fine although I prefer the neck yoke with a britchen.
When you casurate him will make little if any difference.
I have used a bit but I don’t like it because it makes it very hard for him to chew his cud. I prefer a halter with a wraped steel nose band formed to fit the front of his nose. I don’t like a ring because I think it disfigures him.
Have some one help you cut a back furrow and then teach him to walk the furrow.
If you use him enough and treat him right he will become a great buddy.ParticipantI have cut them as young as two weeks and as old as 13 months. I like it to be 3 to 6 months. The old timers used to say you done it when ever the knife was sharp.
You can work him as a bull just the same as you can work a horse as a stallion, but you want to make sure he knows that you are the boss.
The age at which you cut him will make a big difference in how he will look when he is mature.ParticipantThey are brand new and they are $180. each.
Have a great day
HowieParticipantI just happen to have a couple hanging on the wall.
ParticipantNiether the yoke or collar will sore the ox if it is fitted and used right!!!!
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