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oxnon
Are your calves American Line Backs or are they the old style English.:)

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I think my bale hauler is just the cat’s whiskers.:)
In the sumer we use it to gather the bales and set them on a pallet and cover them with a cheap tarp.
In the winter I use it to put the bales in the feeder. I have very little waste.
In our area we have three sizes of bales 500# 800# 1100# and I can handle any of them with the steers with no problem.:rolleyes:

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:eek:If you have a good herd of cattle you should have good pasture and good hay in the winter.
Give a pair of steers like Rod’s free choice of this and in 3or 4 years they will weigh 2800 to 3000 lbs and mabe more. Their legs are not built for that much weight to be trying to mount a cow.
An ox fed this way, and under worked, will easy grow to weigh half again what he would if he was a busy breeding bull.
If you were to start a pair of Holstien calves now it would be at least 3 or 4 years before they might give trouble in the herd.:eek:

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I seen one herd that the ox never let the bull breed a cow.
Seen two oxen that pulled a ligament off a hind leg by trying to breed a cow one was a 1500 lb. Dexter the other was a 3000 lb. Chianina.:eek:

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I live about 8 miles south of Jamestown NY just across the PA line. I have Amish friends in Fort Plain so I am familiar with that route.

ixy
The oxen can do fine in the herd while they are growing up.
About the time they reach maturity, about 4 years they will give the herd sire problems. When they are about 5 or 6 and are a lot bigger than the bull they will give him big problems. If the pasture is any good, they are now big and very obese, They will be trying to breed the cows and will inadvertently hurt them self.:mad:

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Hi Scott
If you were to conact me I would be glad to help you.
You are only about three hours away.
You can run them in with your beef herd when they are young but not when they get older.:)

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That sure is one nice ox cart.:)
I have all the material to build one like it, but I am having a little trouble with my get-up and go.:o
Would it be possible to get a set of plans for that one?:cool:

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Fabin
Those are nice pics:)
That is sure a nice glove dryer that you have there.:p

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He should have a friend but does not need to be cattle. It can just as well be you.:) Or a dog, cat, or even a goat.:p

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Heifers make fine working cattle, BUT they are females.;)
If you are going to raise them to primarily work them then you want steers, they will have a lot less problems.:(
If you want to raise a couple of calves and have a pair of cattle for light work, even in the woods, a pair of cows are fine.:)
You can control the size of the udder.:o

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Every animal, including man and woman, should earn his own keep.

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Notice. When Tim went to the woods with his steers, Tim was first, be sure to keep it that way. You must be the boss in this team.

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They make great smoke for curing meat.

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practice makes perfect:(:o

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The first step to build a yoke for a pair of cattle is to measure the cattle.
Stand the largest one one in a doorway where you can measure how wide he is at the widest point.
The NECK SEATS should be that distance, plus about 6 inches for your cart,s pole or chain, apart CENTER TO CENTER.:p
If you want to do it right there is no one size fits all.

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