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I gust turned fifty to day so thats supposed to be the offical age to be an old fart at 60 you turn into an old grouch!

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Taylor,
Was doing a lot of firewood last year and was getting $65.00 To $75.00 per 8′ cord, and 150.00 for split and delivered! but that was in indiana look out for the guys that say they can move lotts of wood most times they are blowing smoke! If I remember right you have that horse drawn forwarder dont you ? If thats the case on your split wood I would find some 48×40 pallets get some 2×2 oak and make 3 post on each side stack your wood on the pallet you will get a rank on a pallet if you sack it to 60″ Then you can use your loader to move it from there on and you only need to handle it once!
Hope this helps Lancek

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1. International Draft Powered Forestry Association”
2. To promote positive impact forest management using draft animals and appropriate technology”
3.Work to establish a separate and reasonable Worker’s Comp category for animal loggers.””
4.”To improve opportunities for draft animal forestry practitioners to unite regionally, and internationally, to share information, work, markets, and advocacy.”
5.Work with researchers to study and publish ecological benefits of animal logging.”

6. “To establish an international directory of associations, organizations, and individuals who are supporting /(or practicing)/ the work of draft animal forestry practitioners.”
7.

To serve as a networking, clearinghouse and contact information for individuals and organizations involved in animal powered forestry throughout the world.” (3 votes)
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Scott Golden
heres my vote hope we get more replys this time lancek

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no he didnt actuly use a 2×4 but thats what it felt like and I was refuring to the old medafore on how to get a mules attetion of corse my wife will tell you that is what it takes to get my attention some times Lancek

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Thaks all and Jason.
Todays moving day so cant take long will update everyone after we get back on line Tim !

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Hey Taylor,
Im going to Brunswick mo its in the middle of the state along the missiouri river area seems to be a lot of good white oak and walnut in the area allso hickory so Im happy so far we will see what happens Lancek! By the way do you know Erv Humppery hes a big horse trader in hillsdale?

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Yea I know him he lived just down the road from us on the west side didnt he? I think I know the guy in rice lake to but not sure, The markets around here are dead we only have the saw wood market and the mills are only useing there own crews Im moving to missiouri to work on my short wood mill I have had some real interest from the state and found a old lumber yard with about 2 achers and a house for 25,000.00 so we figured we would make the move it would also get us colser to the grand kids to!
BY the way Jason we will not be makeing it to the gathering this year but this was to good of a deal to pass up Lancek

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Yea this is all true but how do you sell this to the customer!Very few land owners look beyond the high bid and do not realise the inportent inpact that our type of logging has to offer

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Hey Taylor,
I use tolive in Hillsdale I use to own the old post office there, Till the state decided to put the highway through it! I was wondering if anybody in that area was useing horses Lancek

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This is a perfect example of our little conversation the other day Scott. If the goverment was smart insted of trying to re eduucate and re locate these people they should be re investing some of that stimulas mony in letting the employies take over the plant I am sure that if they wanted to they could turn around the plant and make it profitable agin! There are still makets out there and if it is finaced in the right way they would be able to get through this mess and start working the whole area agian Tim

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Hey Mitch
you can make the same rails out of 2×4 aluminen. Get two 8 ft rails and four 12 inch braces have the braces welded to the rails and place angle iron tabs on the sides two on the front two on the sides and two on the ends then put lag srews through hloes in the tabs and use then to fasten to the log! This should give you a stable platform to run your saw. Ther are some comercial rails made but I am not sure who sells them any more! But this should be much cheaper if you buy your material right Tim

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I was looking on one of the log arch web sites and seen a timber jack, cant remember wich one though. Anyways they showed a jack that was a long pole with a spike on one end and a jack on the other! Didnt look like it was hard to make but it worked like a charm! You basicly stuck the jack end in the ground and the spiiked end in the tree put preasure on it and then made your chip and back cut till it was almost ready to go and then you pushed the tree over with the jack! I wouldnt want to do a large tree with this jack but trees up to 16″ I dont see how you could go wrong. Tim

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Carl,
I was just wondering when I left Vermount in the late 70s one of the prime reasons was that people from bosten new yourk and other magor citys in the north east were flocking to vermount and buying it up. [IE stowe] Is this trind stiil in effect or has it subsided Tim

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“I agree with Rick go for it I think if we start slowly and build we will be better able to control the content and quality!”

) Throw out some names for the effort. Ideally ones that could carry over into the eventual association. Key words could/would be; draft, forestry, logging, powered, animal, international, etc..
Universal horse logging association!”
“International Draft Animal Forestry Initiative (IDAFI)”

) Mission statement. This should be 1-3 sentences at most.
To promote, and educate the public on draft animal forestry and to provide a network for landowners to connect with practitioners”
To provide an outreach program for new practitioners to learn and grow.”

To facilitate the international connection between draft animal forestry practitioners, exchanging information, providing benefits of association (i.e. insurance, cooperative marketing, etc.), and advocating toward mutual goals.”

4) Goals. List five goals, in order of priority, for this effort. Clear, concise, and limited to one complete sentence.

Share techniques and strategies.”
Work to establish a separate and reasonable Worker’s Comp category for animal loggers.”

“To develop some sort of state or regional organization to help with training new and upcoming horse loggers Get more awareness to the general public find and promote new ways to use animal power to enhance our forest world wide!”
”Mentoring or training”
To improve opportunities for draft animal forestry practitioners to unite regionally, and internationally, to share information, work, markets, and advocacyTo advance an ecological perspective of forest management, based on the use of draft animals, and other low impact/low input strategies.”

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Hey where is everybody?

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