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Mark Cowdrey
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How about spelling!ParticipantNice to see elf-concern about grammar!
MarkNovember 13, 2012 at 2:35 pm in reply to: Request for Common Cause from Green Mountain College #75759ParticipantI support DAPNet taking a public stand repudiating these outside extremists to support the heavy lifting GMC has already done, and is likely to be forced to continue.
MarkParticipantInteresting info.
I have considered a ground drive forecart. The one George mentions in SFJ caught my eye, as did Donn Hewe’s mower conversion. Also interesting about the Fiesta rear ends. My thoughts are currently running like this: I have mostly rolling to side hill ground with wet spots. Tedding is often done when it is hot out. Tedding with a tractor is done (by me) at a pretty good clip. These factors slant my preference toward motorized. That said, the I&J “power adapter” (which, by the way, is exactly what I had in mind (thanks, Billy)) is $1800-$1900 for 9 & 13 hp. Their “standard duty” ground drive cart is $1990. So price is out of the equation, if going new. An 8hp Honda from Northern is $600, which leaves me $1200 for other parts and materials as well as false starts and dicking around till I have something that works well. Hmmm….
Anyone have better pictures of that I&J power adapter?
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MarkParticipantThanks Mitch. My thought is to mount the whole drive rig on a base or platform that would attach to the seat bracket mounting pipes and the drawbar that is welded to the back of the axle. I did figure on keeping the relative position of the tail shaft and hitch as it is on a tractor. I agree that the safety issue is critical and appreciate any thoughts (from anyone).
Chalk it up to my fascination of making removable modifications for the pioneer. Plus I have an “extra” Pioneer here. We’ll see.
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MarkParticipantEd,
Yes, I am thinking just a tedder although I would think (based on nothing) that if it would run a tedder than it might run a rotary rake. I don’t expect I will ever have one but you never know. I find on my hay ground a PTO tedder does quite a bit better job than the Grimm reel tedder but my ground drive NH side delivery works well enough considering what I have into it.
What makes you guess the 8HP, gut feeling or some particular experience?
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MarkParticipantWell Mitch I’m doing great today looking forward to a bright future. Hope you are too.
Any chance of getting any photos of that guy’s rig? And engine HP? And/or contact info?
The dead man clutch is an interseting way to address safety, though I don’t know that I would want to stand all the time.I do stand quite alot when I’m driving in hte woods, but haying is a little different. I was just visiting w Tim Huppe today and he suggested maybe a guard for the rear to prevent falling back into the rotating shaft. Seems like that could work, too.
You guys must be getting ready for LIF. Have fun.
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ParticipantCongrats & Good Luck Jay. Try to remember to breathe once in a while between now & March!
MarkParticipantInteresting question.
My down & dirty research (http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/veg/leaf/squash_bug.htm) shows they overwinter as adults more or less in place in the soil. Do you have mature pigs you could turn in now for a bit to disrupt them? Then maybe buy early piglets and get them on the plot in early April till you are ready to plant. The fresh manure would effect cleanliness of root crops.
MarkParticipantYeah George I was already making retirement plans on the money I was going to make from that one!
Tim you make good points, there is a reason all those old graders are so much alike.I am thinking hemlock as well. The articles mention cedar(?!) and red maple and caution against ash. A full length steel plate on the front should slow down wear on that one, I wonder about some kind of sacrificial shoe on the rear one? I don’t think it wants to cut like the front, more of a smoothing and material distributing action. I’m probably over thinking it.
MarkParticipantGeorge,
I have often thought that a simple, 2-horse road grader would be cool (and useful!) if I could figure one out. Your arch (Forest) would have plenty of clearance but I would prefer a lower point of draft for what I would think would be hard, steady work. For simplicity sake, I’m thinking fixed blade angle (plan view), what should it be?
For a blade, maybe “rip” a (7′?) snow plow blade to 12″ or so high? Fixed vertical angle OK? Maybe tipped forward a little to ride over obstacles w/o needing to “trip”?
MarkParticipantI’ve been thinking about this some more, particularly about how it could be designed/set-up/operated to act as a snow plow as well as a drag, including the possibility of adding (removable?) plank on top of the front plank, possibly tipped forward a little and possibly adjustable horizontally so it could extended as a wing.
All that dreaming aside, looking at the various plans I notice that the State of Ohio & the very similar SFJ plans have both ends of the draw chain attached to the face of the drag at the same ht. The “simpler” King or split log drag have the leading (ditch) end of the chain at about center (top to bottom) but the trailing or crown end loops up over the front log or plank. It seems to me that that arrangement would tend to bear down more on the crown end which is counter intuitive to me, I would think the ditch end should bear down harder.
Thoughts?
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MarkParticipantParticipantThanks Tim.
I Googled “road drag” and found this interesting article by L.H.Bailey:
http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-horticulture/farming/Farm-And-Garden-Rule-Book/Road-drags.html
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http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-horticulture/farming/Farm-And-Garden-Rule-Book/Road-drags-Continued.htmlHe talks about the King road drag which I would bet the one in SFJ is modeled after and was actually patented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:King_Road_Drag_Patent_Diagram.jpg). The depth of cut is manipulated on the fly by the driver shifting position on the platform and also by the length of the hitch (further away, deeper cut; closer, shallower) and even by, he claims, the weight of the evener.
Oh goody, another project.
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